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The Three Flames


Here are a few notes from our recent message entitled “FLAMES”.

There is a book in the middle of the bible, there is this collection of love poems that are so explicit that young Jewish boys were not allowed to read them until were older.

THE THREE FLAMES OF LOVE – BED OF ROSES Of (which mine has been because of you)

Joe Cocker – (you are so beautiful)
We get a lot of mileage out of this OLD ENGLISH WORD LOVE don’t we? – “I love my wife, but I also love a new car or my best pair of pants…..I really love you BUT I ALSO LOVE TACOS’?

there are three different Hebrew words used to describe love. I have found these three things to be very important to cultivating a healthy and loving relationship.

RAYA – Friendship
The first Hebrew word used to describe love in Song of Songs is “Raya,” which means basically a friend, a companion or soulmate (Song of Songs 4:7). Basically, this special person should be our best friend.

AHAVA – Deep Affection and Commitment
The second Hebrew word is “Ahava,” which means a deep affection. It is a desire that is unquenchable, a wish to be with the other person that makes your heart ache.
love has three dimensions. — “Ahava” is a love of the will and that it is more profound than just fleeting romantic feelings. It is a desire which leads a person to make a decision to join their life to another forever. It is what makes things last. It is the commitment involved in making a relationship work. Here we see that love is very much a choice as much as it is a connection. The lovers of Song of Songs state that Ahava is as strong as death, that many rivers cannot quench “Ahava” (Song of Songs 8:7).
DOD – Passion
The third Hebrew word used in the Hebrew love poems is “Dod.” Dod means to carouse, rock or to fondle (Song of Songs 1:2). Dod is the passion and the romantic feelings that are a part of a love relationship, the physical, sexual part.

“Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.” Genesis 2:24 and Matthew 9:5

The three ingredients of love are three distinct flames. Each component that we have is a small flame. Some people may just settle for the Dod flame in their relationship. Well, this is only a small piece of the whole of love. We can keep coming back to this flame but alone it never really satisfies. Our souls ache for more. The key is to have all three flames burning as one big flame. This big flame can warm our soul and satisfy us. Anything less is less than what we were intended for. The good news is that if you are in a relationship and one of these three ingredients is missing you can still, many times, light the flames by focusing on them.

When we separate the flames there is never enough heat to keep the fire going

All three Hebrew words are the drug that keeps the love cooking!
 May you discover all three flames and pass the torch to you youngins
Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails….13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love. – 1 Corinthians 13:4-8,13 (NKJV)
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Guest Blogger – Matt Simpson


Here are the notes on Matt’s recent message called “DIRT”.


  • Intro: Genesis 2:7
  • –God Formed Man (Adam) out of dirt from the ground and blew into his nostrils the breath of Life. The man was alive, a living soul.  (MSG)
  • God made us out of dirt. You are a pile of dirt. (Glad you came?)
  • Isaac camping—Dirt from head to toe in .6 seconds. If I told Isaac he was made from dirt he would have no trouble with that. Would you?
  • Did God make you out of dirt? If so why?
  • Science & History
  • Identical chemical and mineral make up as dirt
  • NASA, studying the origins of life discovered that life on earth might have gotten its start in clay.
  • Clay attracts proteins and DNA and has the ability to form them into chains. Those chains are the beginning of life.
  • The name “Adam” translates in several languages as “ruddy clay” or “red clay”.
  • When someone dies and is buried they turn back to dirt.
  • DIRT With a Purpose
  • Why would God choose dirt? Out of all the substances on Earth he chose…DIRT.  He had a purpose.
  • First, we are a unique blend of earthly/natural material, and the life-giving power of God.
  • Everything else God created He SPOKE into existence. However, when He formed man, He put his hands into the dirt and then breathed life into us.
  • Highlights the value of human life—Why Would God create us in such a way if He didn’t ultimately have a plan and purpose for our lives
  • DIRT Knows its Place
  • Dirt gets a bad rap. “dirt cheap”, “dirt poor”, “old as dirt”. If you have the “dirt” on someone it’s never a good thing.
  • The word “dirt” in several different languages actually translates to “excrement”. Adam-Rude
  • Highlights our own fragility and utter dependence upon God.
  • Without life giving breathe of God we are just a pile of dirt.
  • Shifts our focus to what really matters in us; What makes us special, the dirt or the breath of God living in the dirt? What makes us special is not us but God living in us.
  • 2nd Corinthians 4:7 says “But we have this treasure in jars of CLAY, to show that the surpassing power belongs to God and not to us.” (ESV)
  • It’s great to know that we serve a God who paves His street with gold but adopts dirt as his sons and daughters!
  • Constant Contact
  • Scribbles to Art Video
  • Jeremiah 18:1-6  The word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord: “Arise, and go down to the potter’s house, and there I will let you hear my words.” So I went down to the potter’s house, and there he was working at his wheel. And the vessel he was making of clay was spoiled in the potter’s hand, and he reworked it into another vessel, as it seemed good to the potter to do.

Then the word of the Lord came to me: “O house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter has done? declares the Lord. Behold, like the clay in the potter’s hand, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel.

  • God’s object lesson. Not a mountain, desert, burning bush. A Potter’s
  • God’s work was not done with Adam, he was just getting started.
  • God’s desire is to constantly rework, reshape us if we’ll let him.
  • My story; “God never stopped loving you!”
  • Give God your dirt, hand over your scribbles-your best effort and watch him turn your life into a living work of art. A reflection of God’s grace, mercy and love. That’s our true purpose; to reflect the God who made us.
  • Conclusion
  • What does it look like to have God’s finger prints all over our lives?
  • Repent. Turn from our dirt and scribbles to give them to God.
  • Relinquish control; Even if it hurts. Because God writes a much better story, he fashions a much more useful and beautiful vessel.
  • Receive what God has for you even if it is unknown and scary. Because the God that breathed life into your dirt desires a relationship with you
  • If you don’t know God but want to talk to us in the back
  • If you do know God but have been holding on to your dirt and scribbles lets pray that you will begin to let God in and transform you from the inside out!dirt


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I left some stuff behind


Last week we invested a week on a sailboat our son graced us with in California.

It was a week of rest, reflection and letting go of somethings.

Vacations are great to get unplugged and get away.

They are a great time to experience the new and let go of the old.

It is great to reduce the amount of material things along the way in life…check out

But I’m mostly thinking about the emotional baggage — the spiritual baggage.


Guilt, shame, and regret. Unhealthy attitudes, bad habits. Misplaced priorities. Impossible standards and unrealistic expectations — for ourselves and others. Unresolved hurt, bitterness, and unforgiveness. Prejudice, self-righteousness, complacency. Fear, worry, and negativity.

I actually got a box and put some “emotional baggage” in it and left it a garbage ben on the beach.

Boynton Beach FL (2012).

It was very freeing!

Here are a few scribbles and thoughts of stuff we should leave behind.

Jesus tells us to “shake the dust off your feet” Matthew 10:14

Our baggage weighs us down and hinders us from  moving toward our God intended future.

Another story in the old testament tells of Saul binding behind his baggage – “When Samuel gathered all the tribes of Israel, the tribe of Benjamin was picked…Saul son of Kish was picked. But when they looked for Saul, they could not find him. 22 They asked the Lord, “Has Saul come here yet?”  The Lord said, “Yes. He’s hiding behind the baggage.”  23 So they ran and brought him out. When Saul stood among the people, he was a head taller than anyone else. 24 Then Samuel said to the people, “See the man the Lord has chosen. There is no one like him among all the people.”  Then the people shouted, “Long live the king!” 1 Samuel 10:20-24 (NCV)


Dust That Derails Your Destiny

Shake off the dust of Bad DAYS.
Shake off the dust of Bad DEEDS.
Shake off the dust of Bad DEBTS.

Two  types of anger expressed in the Bible.
“Be angry and sin not”  Ephesians 4:26

“Thumos” is anger expressed .    “Perogismo” is anger repressed .

1. It Takes Control Over Me.
You tear yourself to pieces in your anger. Job 18:4 (ncv)

2. It Effects All Of My Other Relationships.
See to it that no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many. Hebrews 12:15 (niv)

3. It Damages me Spiritually.
Be angry and sin not …Do not give the devil a foothold Ephesians . 4:27

How To Leave The Baggage Behind

1. I Need To Forgive With A Positive Attitude.
2. I Need To Forgive Others Like God Has Forgiven Me.
3. I Need To Forgive To Release my Future.

We have No Future Without Forgiveness

“shake the dust off your feet” Matthew 10:14
“the washing with water through the word” Ephesians 5:26 

“never let the arrows of criticism pierce your heart unless it first passes through the filter of scripture.” – Erwin Mcmannus

Leave some stuff behind and travel light.



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The Yin The Yang of Us

This Sunday …The Yin and Yang of us.

Wow,  over 35 years of marriage/love/hope/dissapointments and a ton of grace, Steve and Brenda have found balance and a way to to stay through it all. Join us Sunday Discovery Church for the story of three and a half decades of marriage, ministry and the art of keeping it together.
10:00 A.M. – Prescott College

wear your flip flops

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God and your bod



Romans 12:1,2

Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper (reasonable service of) worship.
 Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will. (NIV)
God made room for us in his family tree.
Romans 11:17-20 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.”

Vs 1 “in view of God’s mercy”
 Grace is getting what we do not deserve Mercy is Not getting what we deserve.
Grace and mercy are not the same thing although they both come from God. Grace is what we receive that we do not deserve while mercy is what we do not get that we do deserve. He gives the one (grace) and withholds the other (mercy) and that is why we ought to give thanks to God for His goodness.

Vs. 1b “Present (offer) your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God.”
Your body is a VEHICLE to get you places
Before man created cars – God gave you feet. – your feet are pointed FORWARD!
feetI have learned one thing. As Woody says, ‘Showing up is 80 percent of life.’
The world is run by those who show up.Your body is a VESSEL.
2 Timothy 2:22 – he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work.

Your body is a TEMPLE.
1 Corinthians 6:19-20 – do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.

Vs. 1c “which is your reasonable service of worship.”
* Everybody worships someone or something. (from Mark Batterson evotional)
In Exodus 32, Moses is on top of Mount Sinai for forty days. And when the cat’s away the mice will play! Exodus 32:1 says, “When Moses failed to come down the mountain right away, the people went to Aaron. ‘Make us some gods who can lead us. This man Moses, who brought us here from Egypt, has disappeared’.”

 Aristotle said, “Nature abhors a vacuum.” That isn’t just a law of physics. It’s a spiritual law.

 I think it’s easy to miss the most obvious lesson in this story. Here it is: the Israelites couldn’t go forty days without worshipping.
Moses was gone for a few days and it created a spiritual vacuum. The Israelites had to find something to fill the spiritual vacuum that was created. Why? Because we can’t not worship! If we aren’t worshipping God with a capital “G” we’ll find a god with a lower case “g” to fill that vacuum.

Gold Earrings

 So Aaron told them to bring him their gold earrings. These aren’t any old earrings. These gold earrings were a gift from God. Let me hit the rewind button and go back to Exodus 12:36. The Israelites asked the Egyptians for clothing and articles of silver and gold. And it says, “God caused the Egyptians to look favorably on the Israelites, and they gave the Israelites whatever they asked for. So, like a victorious army, they plundered the Egyptians.”
Here’s what I’m trying to get at: the Israelites turned a gift from God into an idol. The Israelites literally used a gift from God capital “G” to make a god little “g.”
If we aren’t careful, God-given gifts can become idols. In fact, the greatest blessings pose the greatest danger.
So Aaron melted the gold earrings. Then he “molded and tooled” it into the shape of a calf. And the people said in Exodus 32:4: “O Israel, these are the gods who brought you out of Egypt.”
In the margin of my Bible I wrote the words “silly slap” next to this verse because that’s exactly what I want to do.
The Israelites saw God perform the ten miraculous plagues. They had box seats for the parting of the Red Sea. They ate the manna God miraculously provided in the wilderness. They saw God perform all of these miraculous signs.
Then they give a golden calf credit for getting them out of Egypt: “These are the gods who brought us out of Egypt.”
Are you kidding me? ..Come on, people!
Do you know where you’d get if a calf was leading you. Nowhere! All they do is chew cud.
And that’s what cracks me up. Of all the idols they could have made, they choose a calf. I don’t even get it. Maybe it’s just me, but you could certainly come up with a more impressive idol couldn’t you? If you’re going to get into idolatry, at least make it a Raging Bull with three horns that shoot lasers or a two-headed calf that breathes fire. Is that the best you can do? The Israelites aren’t even good at picking idols!

Diddley Squat
 – Let me give you a definition of worship. – Worship is giving credit where credit is due.
Sin is the exact opposite. Sin is giving credit to anyone besides God for anything.
Imagine someone facing the eastern horizon and motioning in a dramatic gesture intended to make the sun rise. And the sun comes up. And they think their dramatic gesturing did it. Each of us is that person. Every ounce of energy, every penny, every second of time, every thought, every talent, every opportunity, every blessing is a gift from God.

Whenever I start getting heady, Job 34:14 keeps me humble! “If God were to take back His Spirit and withdraw his breath, all life would cease and humanity would return to dust.”
Here’s my translation: without God we’re not even “Diddley Squat.”

Now let me jump back into Exodus 32.
God has rescued the Israelites. He has shown them miracle after miracle after miracle. He has given them gift after gift after gift. And what do the Israelites do? They take the gift God had given them and use it make idols. They give credit to some golden calf.
Isn’t it amazing how quickly we forget what God has done for us?


Let me demystify worship. Worship is saying “Thank You.”

Maybe I’m simple-minded. But I think “Please” and “Sorry” and “Thank You” aren’t just good manners. They are the key to spiritual maturity. Never stop saying “Sorry.” Never stop saying “Please.” And never stop saying “Thank You.”
Isn’t that what I Thessalonians 5:18 says? “No matter what happens, always be thankful, for this is God’s will for you who belong to Christ.”

I think there’s part of us that reads a story like Exodus 32 and we chuckle. Those silly ancient people! How could they worship a golden calf? They were so ancient and so silly. But we worship little green pieces of paper with numbers on them. Is that really any different? I think our idolatry is much more refined and civilized. But if we’re worshiping anything other than God Almighty then we’re bowing down to a golden calf. 
Dance Party

So the Aaron makes a golden calf and the people get all excited. They build an altar in front of it. They even throw a dance party.
Moses comes down the mountain with Joshua and they hear this ruckus. Joshua said, “It sounds as if there is war in the camp.” Moses said, “No, it’s neither a cry of victory nor a cry of defeat. It is the sound of a celebration.
Have you ever seen someone get super excited about something you thought was super silly? And you’re sort of embarrassed for them. Like something who thinks they can dance, but they can’t really dance.
Permission to speak frankly? I’m embarrassed for them! You would think that this golden calf was producing Cold Stone Creamery shakes through its golden udders or something. But all it is is an inanimate object. That’s it.
Here is my observation.
They were getting excited about the wrong thing. There is nothing wrong with getting excited. The word enthusiasm comes from two Greek words: En Theos. It means “in God.” In other words, the more we get into God the more enthusiastic we become. Christ followers ought to be the most enthusiastic people on the planet.

 Soren Kierkegaard said, “Boredom is the root of all evil.” I find that fascinating. Let me share a personal conviction: I don’t think our biggest problem is not feeling bad enough about what’s wrong with us. I think our biggest problem is not feeling good enough about what’s right with God.
I think our greatest sin is under-celebrating. Heaven is going to be a cosmic celebration.

 Let me reveal one of Satan’s tactics. The enemy tries to get us to focus on what’s wrong with us so that we won’t worship what’s right with God. I’m going to say it over and over again in this series: don’t let what’s wrong with you keep you from worshipping what’s right about God.
Here’s the bottom line: the Israelites celebrating the wrong thing.
We were hardwired to worship something so much bigger and so much better than our manufactured idols.


Vs. 2 

Do not conform to the pattern of this world
God made you an ORIGINAL….please don’t die a COPY.

Be a thermostat!
Don’t be a thermometer, be a thermostat. Thermometers just reflect the climate around them – thermostats set it. Actually, they lift it! Most of us are like thermometers reflecting the culture around us. We buy things others buy, say things others say, wear things others wear, and value things others value. Oh, there are slight variations, but most of the time we don’t set the climate for the world we live in; we simply adjust to it. But not overcomers! No, they take life to the next level. They become thermostats and change the environment in which they’re placed. For instance, you may know people who raise the spiritual temperature of a group, or determine the attitudes of others just by being present. They’re pacesetters. They influence, rather than merely allowing others to influence them. Paul’s challenge to the Romans was to move from being a thermometer to being a thermostat. Listen: “Don’t become so well-adjusted to your culture that you fit into it without even thinking. Instead, fix your attention on God. You’ll be changed from the inside out. Readily recognize what he wants from you, and quickly respond to it. Unlike the culture around you, always dragging you down to its level of immaturity, God brings the best out of you, develops well-formed maturity in you” (Ro 12:2 TM). God calls us to be authentic. The word authentic comes from the Greek word “to author.” It means to read God’s script for your life and then write your own story, not copy somebody else’s. That’s living. That’s being a thermostat, not a thermometer! – (Bob Gass)
Romans 12:1,2
Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper (reasonable service of) worship. 2 Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will. (NIV)
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Andrew’s challenge


My good friend Andrew Bogdanov and his company Rebel Hand Cycles have a dream.

September 12,2015, He will accomplish just that.

By participating in the San Diego Triathlon Classic.

If you would like to sponsor Andrew, please shoot me an email at

or send me a txt.

We need to raise $550.00 to get him there and back.

Thank you for believing.