Life experiences, outdoors

Faces Around The Fire

Faces Around The Fire

An Adventure Practice In Forgiveness.

Steve Lummer

It was 11:15 PM! My camp was pitched just outside the Grand Canyon National Park on BLM land (Burerau Of Land Management). The National Park has some great camping spots and this time of year they are so overpopulated.  For this trip I’m allergic to crowds;  yipping Chihuahuas diesel pickups and teenage “music”. This trip will require solitude, silence and a really good campfire.

In the past I have had many campfire chats in my forty plus years of pastoral ministry. The fellowship was always warm.  Many times the fire soon cooled and the friendships burned out for one reason or another.  We heard in our campfire conversations over the years the phrase, “I remember once”.  We talked about the only things ever discussed around campfires – old times and stories told by faces reflected in the fires. Yes! Nature’s T.V. held us captive throughout the evening chats.

My adventure practice this past week was about reflecting on those campers in the fire that are no longer with me.  Some, for reasons that cause relationships to cool and others that left my life in very heated disagreements.  I had three campfires on this adventure and I called each of them “Fires Of Forgiveness”.

My first campfire of forgiveness: 

“Our God is a consuming fire.” Hebrews 12:29 (NIV) 

Fire consumes, wipes out and cleanses. I needed to be cleansed of the battle wounds I had received over the years of ministry.  I needed this adventure to not only free me from some past hurt, but to get free me deep in my soul. What I discovered is that I invested a lifetime in building a great ministry but didn’t take the time to build a great soul. What? Yes, there I said it. I was more interested in how Richard Rohr so artistically writes.  “There are two major tasks in the human spiritual journey.  The task of the first half of life is to create a proper container for one’s life and answer some central questions. “Who am I?” “What makes me significant?”  “How can I support myself?” “Who will go with me?”   The task of the second half of life is, quite simply, to find the actual contents that this container was meant to hold and deliver.  In other words, the container is for the sake of the contents.”

An authentic God experience always “burns” you, yet does not destroy you.  It burns away the layers of my false self and get to the true identity of who my creator designed me to be.

The burning bush example revealed to Moses who he was and what God designed him to be (Exodus 3:2-3). I was not prepared in Bible College or in ministry for such burning, nor was I even told to expect it. By definition, authentic God experience is always “too much”! It consoles our true self only after it has devastated our false self. I need this first fire to be a fire of forgiving myself of focusing on my container too much and not the contents.

Belden C. Lane in his book, Backpacking With The Saints writes of the Desert Fathers and how they spoke with insight of how their inner wounds and their old injuries from the past will have a way of expressing themselves. Abba Poeman observed that old wounds have a way of expressing themselves in four stages of unconscious activity. They first appear in the heart, as festering wounds that crop up in our dreams and fantasies. They subsequently show up in the face, in passing glances of anger, jealousy, or envy. Abraham Lincoln said that everyone over forty years of age is responsible for his own face. It mirrors what we carry inside. Thirdly said Abba Poemen, inner wounds reveal themselves in words, in our sniping at others, our passive-aggressive language. And finally, the wounds appear in deeds. We reface them in our actions, doing to others what had been done to us. What isn’t transformed, in other words will be transmitted.

At this campfire of forgiveness I learned to understand and put into the practice dying to my disturbed, over anxious self important  self. The God who is a consuming fire did His work that night.

My second campfire of forgiveness:

The second evening in solitude I built another campfire.  They never told me in Bible college that just because I had vision and wanted to help people find Jesus not everyone would support that vision or get behind it. The naivety of youth produced the misleading notion that people would just follow me. I know, what a silly notion!  Silly as that is, over the long haul, when people leave you for one reason or another it does affect you.  The chronic disappointment of watching your “friends” get up and leave your fire is troubling and I’m not just talking about the Covid convenience of people just quitting on you, I’m speaking to a deeper pandemic of disloyalty and abandonment.


Over the years, my wife and I have had many great lasting relationships. The wealth of these relationships outweighs the ones that hurt.  There is still a sadness that hovers when we feel the loss of people we poured our lives into .  A scripture that has always kept me focused and is John 2:19  “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.”-  (NKJV)

Exit wounds or God’s protection?

When in the perils of brethren, it is good to remember quotes like this one.

“God sometimes removes a person from your life for your protection. Don’t run after them.”―Rick Warren 

A good friend explained it to me like this, “Steve, when you plant a church you will have people that will help you start the work and then they are gone.  Think of it like rocket boosters on a space shuttle. They get you to a certain point and then they fall off for a reason. God sent them to you to accomplish His work for a certain season.

“The Lord gives and He takes away.” Job 1:21

When I paused and looked at the glowing embers that night, I realized  that none of the people in “my church” were my people in the first place. They were God’s people and it is His church.

It was a relief to forgive the old me of thinking everyone needed to stay with me.

I concluded that not everyone you lose is a loss.  What a privilege it was for me to serve with them in the warmth of the fire while we had it.

My Third Campfire Is a Restoring Campfire:

The third evening I sat next to the best campfire I have ever enjoyed. I’ll name it the campfire of restored identity.  I mused on the two times in scripture where Peter was close to a campfire and the smell of that wood smoke saturated the air. The two references are where Peter denied Jesus in a courtyard and the second is where Jesus restored Peter next to a fire on the beach.

When they landed, they saw a charcoal fire there with fish on it, and some bread. – John 21:9

The first time is in John 18:15-19. Peter stood and warmed himself while denying that he even knew Jesus.

 “Simon Peter and another disciple were following Jesus. Because this disciple was known to the high priest, he went with Jesus into the high priest’s courtyard, 16 but Peter had to wait outside at the door. The other disciple, who was known to the high priest, came back, spoke to the servant girl on duty there and brought Peter in.

17 “You aren’t one of this man’s disciples too, are you?” she asked Peter. He replied, “I am not.”

18 It was cold, and the servants and officials stood around a charcoal fire they had made to keep warm. Peter also was standing with them, warming himself.”

When they landed, they saw a charcoal fire there with fish on it, and some bread. – John 21:9

Sitting next to a charcoal fire, Jesus restored Peter and his God-designed identity, as well as, his role as Jesus’ disciple and a leader of Jesus’ church. There the smell of campfire smoke brought memories of sin and guilt, and Jesus gave Peter grace and mercy. As fire is used to refine gold and silver, fire here is used to refine and restore Peter.

Coals and Conclusion:

Our “God is a consuming fire.” Hebrews 12:29 (NIV)

As we allow him to burn up the clutter of unforgiveness we experience freedom in our lives.  The adventure of forgiveness lightens our load and removes the unneeded baggage that weighs our souls down.  Start a fire in you life and let God burn up what you no longer need. 

Life experiences, Storms of life



Here we are at December 21 and the winter solstice that marks the shortest day and the longest night of the year. The sun appears at its lowest point in the sky, and its noontime elevation appears to be the same for several days before and after the solstice. Hence the origin of the word solstice, which comes from Latin solstitium, from sol, sun and stitium, a stoppage. Following the winter solstice, the days begin to grow longer and the nights shorter.

Your solstice could be the darkest night of your life.  The time when you feel like cannot see your way through.

Here are a few thoughts on seeing through your darkest times of your life.

Usually God’s purposes are revealed and His power displayed, in our darkest experiences when like Gideon you ask, “If the Lord is with [me], why has…this happened?” When there seems to be no rhyme or reason, God’s promise is, “I will give you the treasures of darkness, riches stored in secret places, so that you may know that I am the Lord…who [calls] you by name” (Isa 45:3 NIV).

Anybody can be faithful in good times, but standing “by night in the house of the Lord” (Ps 134:1 NIV) takes real commitment. Hymn writer George Matheson wrote: “Will I remain in God’s house at night…love Him for who He is…know I desire not the gift but the Giver? When I can remain…during the darkness of night and worship…I’ve accepted Him for Himself alone.” When the Israelites faced their greatest challenge, the Red Sea, the Bible says, “All that night the Lord drove the sea back” (Ex 14:21 NIV). Be encouraged, God is working, even though you can’t see Him.

After all, how can God give us “songs in the night” (Job 35:10) if the sun always shines? Jesus said, “What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight” (Mt 10:27 NIV). It’s in life’s dark places that God shares things which strengthen you, and encourage those around you.

The Solstice or darkest night of your life can be an opportunity to see  what you cannot see in the bright of day.

Take the darkest places and let God transform them into your brightest places.

Weeping may remain for a night, but rejoicing comes in the morning. Psalm 30:5

Be the light my friends and especially in the darkest places.

All the best.


Life experiences, Ministry



When a scrap of fabric becomes a worship tool, becomes a tear dryer, becomes a make up wiper, becomes a grave cloth, becomes a “tryer emblem”, becomes a victory flag
#lovemytribe #dontletyourdreamsbedreams
#lazarusdance #cmonJourney! – Kay

Here is an email we received and wanted to share it.

“Journey1 was such a blast yesterday!! I hope you all had a great time. I
had a wild experience that I wanted to share with you.Pastor Steve Lummer’s message really ministered to me. He said something like, “Are you going to let a dead man, Lazarus have more faith than you?”
And then Pastors Steve & Jesse illustrated that Lazarus had to overcome
being dead for 2 days & 100 pounds of grave clothes in order to comply with
Jesus’ command to “come forward” from out of the tomb. Steve said…
*#dontletyourtryerdie *.A little background… In the 9 months that Mom has been gone my
spirit felt like it kept moving between 3 townships:1) “Overwhelmed with grief-ville” (I feel too sad to thrive. I quit. Please leave me alone.)
2) “Depressed-ville” (I’ll at least act like I want to live but only on the
days that I choose, don’t count on me.)
3) “Anxiety over life goes on-ville” (Yikes my savings is hemorrhaging, I
need a job! I want to FEEL ‘thriving’ again! God heal my hurt, calm my
panic!)Recently I moved into my present township, which I’m calling “Alive in
Him-ville”.  I got here about the time my savings got down to double
digits. This is a way better place to be. Funny thing is nothing has
changed much on the outside. In fact some folks would be asking for
financial help by now & maybe I’m the fool for not. Thing is, only in this
place have I gotten so honest with myself. Maybe feeling my ‘ground zero’
helped me see things clearly. I thought I had it so rough & had to ‘rise
above’ at my old job with it’s low pay, mean boss & office dragon lady.
Well let me tell you something, I recently confessed to God
how I habitually complained of & mismanaged a very nice salary plus I
harbored resentment & unforgiveness towards upper management, my boss &
another woman in my department FOR YEARS!! Furthermore, I allowed gossip &
the opinions of others to impact many of my decisions rather than seeking
out God’s wisdom through fasting, praying & his word. This is the
place where I’m experiencing God’s provision, forgiveness & freedom from
sin & where I’m actually moving forward & following him. I’m not 100% sure
how God is measuring my progress but I think it relies on my obedience. I
believe my dream, which God placed in my heart, will come to life from
being here: to be a peaceful, wise woman who fearlessly, passionately &
completely follows after Christ & helps others who struggle in their
belief to find a way out of the pits & get on the road to spreading the
good news of salvation.Before service yesterday we were gathered in a circle holding hands in the
building behind the stage & right before praying Jesse talked about Journey
Church turning 6 years old. In reaction I spontaneously belted out, “I’ve
changed so much in my 3 years at Journey. I’ve never actually stayed at
a church this long before. I tried but I always left feeling like it wasn’t
for me. In my time at Journey I experienced wanting to leave & to not
belong here; but this time I sought out God & obeyed him & I stayed. I’ve
always loved Jesus but now I think I love him enough to actually follow
him.” Then Jesse & Steve & Jake started repeating what I said & it made
my spirit jump!!So when Jesse began to arise from his 2 days of death & 100 pounds of grave
clothes… & as pastor Steve chimed, “He’s trying, look he’s trying to obey
Jesus, his tryer is still trying!”… I literally heard God whisper the
same words to me, “Robin come forth from the tomb” & “I see you
trying”. You could’ve knocked me over with a feather!

I absolutely adore each one of you gals & am so blessed to serve the body
of Christ & live life along side of you. I hope my testimony about what
yesterday meant to me encourages you…. or at least entertains you.


Thank you Jesse and Missy, Journey Church and the Leadership team that inspire us all

Don’t let your TRYER die.


Life experiences

You can manage this.

This is the view out my backdoor this morning while I was headed to church today and I thought to myself…”We never see the entire stretch of the road from any one point. Life is not a long, straight path – the unfamiliar path clearly visible – it is a winding and undulating lane. ‘Come on,’ Life seems to say, showing us just one little bit of the track, ‘you can manage this – and now this – and now this again!’ –#weseethroughaglassdarkly.


Just sayin', Life experiences, Life Goals



This week I turned 55.

So I have been doing a little inventory regarding getting a little older.

Yes, I realize 60 is the new 30 but still…I am on a quest for aging well .


I want to borrow from writer Brenda Smith who  learned the following lessons from observing her aging parents:

(1) Aging isn’t optional, being ‘old’ is. Keep making plans or you’re subconsciously giving yourself permission to die. Dad believed he owed rent on his earthly space and he paid it by giving back to others.

(2) God is real. Mom struggled with depression as her Parkinson’s disease progressed. However, she looked for God’s hand in everything, and a lifetime of believing helped her to see His sufficiency even more in her final years.

(3) Time is a gift. David said, “Teach us to use wisely all the time we have” (Ps 90:12 CEV). Dad told a friend of his, “When you’ve so little time left, you can’t spend it doing stupid things. You learn to invest in things that count.”

(4) Sickness doesn’t create sainthood. It’s a test of patience, emotional restraint and maturity. When Dad was incapacitated he discovered that old age and sickness don’t automatically draw you closer to God. He still had to discipline his mind to delight in the Lord and to find true joy in Christ.

(5) Laughter revives the soul. After her father became ill, Smith writes about how this revered writer, speaker and consultant, “ended up smiling as he stared down at his size 46 waistline that took a dive each time he stood up from his wheelchair!” When Mother Nature and Father Time get through with all of us, we’ll gaze into the mirror and either laugh or cry. Since “Laughter doeth good like a medicine” (See Pr 17:22), and since God’s prepared a wonderful new body for us in heaven, make up your mind to go out with joy!

And I would like to add a 6th.

(6th) Forgiveness plus good family and friends = hope for tomorrow. – There is so much talk these days about “sustainable living” without a lot of sustainable relationships.

Life without a lifetime of forgiveness is no life at all.

Here is a good quote to end this blog post tonight. “A good marriage is made up of two forgivers.”  – Ruth Graham Bell

Oh and why not just throw this one in too.

(7th)  Get outside and explore while you are able. Mark Twain said, “Twenty years from now you’ll be more disappointed by the things you didn’t do, than by the ones you did. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the wind. Explore. Dream. Discover.

Live long and prosperous my friend.



“I’ve run hard right to the finish, believed all the way. All that’s left now is…God’s applause!” 2 Timothy 4:7 TM

Discovery Church, Life experiences, Prescott National Forest


Today was amaZING.

I had the entire day alone.

Yes, totally along with the exception of my three golden retrievers.


It was interesting, because the last three months have been a flurry of activity and groups and activity.

Tonight as I sat in front of my chiminea full of fire and firewood smoke.

natures tv

I listened to the water trickling in Willow creek below me and the wind whispering in the pines on the hill above me.

All of the elements were surrounding me with wind, wood , water and fire .


When you are alone …………. things can get real creative.

“One God idea is better than a 1000 good ideas.”

For your body to stay healthy, you have to keep eating.
For your mind to stay healthy, you have to keep learning.
For your soul to stay healthy , you have to keep dreaming.

Our imagination is an attribute that God has given us – You have NO boundaries in your imagination!

Our imagination is the PLAYGROUND where you and God get to commune and dream together… yes, Yes it is.




family, Life experiences, outdoors, Telluride, Tetons, Travel

Truckee, Telluride and the Tetons

Over the past three wedding anniversary’s, Brenda and I by accident or design have been blessed by three amaZING vacation destinations.

TRUCKEE CALIFORNIA ( 30th wedding anniversary)

TELLURIDE COLORADO (31st wedding anniversary)

TETON NATIONAL PARK IN WYOMING (32nd wedding anniversary)

Each destination was special and will hold fantastic memories and that is in part why I have this blog… help me remember these amaZING places and experiences.

I just wanted to post some photos of the past three years of anniversary adventures.

Truckee River going into Boca Lake.

This year we pushed north to the Grand Tetons and Yellowstone National Parks – wow, no disappointment there. What a fantastic place.

I am guessing there were about 3000 waiting and watching Old Faithful with us. – My phone battery went dead into Ouray…The entire ride was more like 16 miles.

The Ghost town of tomboy – 3000 feet above telluride.

Thanks to the folks from Boulder who gave me a lift into Ouray from the summit. Without them it would have been a LONG ride down the hill.

Every morning we walked the pups.

My brother Gary and his wife Susie joined us for a couple of days.

Last Dollar Road moto ride

Lewis and Clark

Love the travels to some anaZING  places with my best friend and life partner.

Thanks to my parents for house/dog sitting. Pam and Roberto and Matt for the gifts of lodging.

Thanks brenda for 32 amaZING years of marriage.

One life one wife make it great.

“Don’t accumulation possessions, accumulate experiences.”  – Mark Batterson


Life experiences, Marriage Adventures, outdoors, Travel


Over the past 30 years I have been privileged to lead and be on some amazing adventures with some amazing people.

From deep sea fishing with my wife in the Pacific Ocean / mountain biking in Mexico, the Iditirod trail in Alaska and Arizona / climbing Half Dome in Yosemite / fishing the amazing waters of Canada / getting to Espejo Peak in the Venezuelan Andes @15,633 ft / scuba diving and canoeing the Ozarks / hiking into the Grand Canyon or riding a bike across Iowa … all of these adventures had one thing in common.  Friends to enjoy it with.

It is amazing how you get to know someone when you get out of your routine. Being in the outdoors helps open doors to new and lasting relationships with family and friends.

When John Muir said; “most people live on the earth not in it”, I think he nailed it by describing how easy it is to miss an amazing place called planet earth. We live on the only living planet in the universe, (that we know of), with 7 billion other people. What a shame to miss out on the greatest gift in the universe, people and the planet we live on.

The adventure is great! But it is amazing when it is experienced with people of like hearts and passion.

If you are reading this blog, you are a member of an elite group. A group of adventure types that love being outside the walls of  a  mall or structure that has your view clouded by ceilings and walls.

We believe that God gave us the outdoors to help us see the bigger picture He has designed for us.
Church settings are nice but the roof is to low. God took Abraham  of the Old Testament outside his tent and told him to look up at the stars in the sky and God told him that his offspring would outnumber the stars. What God did is just as significant as what he said. He led Abraham outside for an object lesson that he would never forget. Why did God take him outside? Because inside the tent, Abraham’s vision of God and God’s amazing future for him was limited. He could not see the potential of God’s promises displayed against the backdrop of God’s creation.

God wanted him to get a glimpse of just how big a God he was. Taking Abraham outside was God’s way of telling him not to put limits and ceilings on what God wanted to do through him and for him.

Get yourself outside yourself and mix it up with some good friends or good strangers for a change…. Get outside and adventure yourself.

Here are a few opportunities we are putting together over the next year for you to connect through some amazing adventure trips.

Upcoming trips in 2012/13

Connection Expeditions –  Marriage Adventure May 2012 – Sedona, Arizona

Connection Expeditions – Grand Canyon Adventure September 2012 – Grand Canyon National Park

Connection Expeditions – Yosemite National Park/Halfdome- September 2013

For more outdoor adventures contact Pastor Steve Lummer @ 928-710-0750 or go to Connections web site at:

Life experiences, Ragbrai, Telluride, Travel, Yosemite

I’ve had my “ups and downs” this summer

The summer of 2011 was an amazing four months of being on the go.

From Missouri, Iowa, to Colorado and California and then back to our beautiful Arizona, it has been a great experience to say the least.

In June Brenda and I were given the opportunity to speak for our friends Pastor Jesse and Missy Quiroz and the thriving congregation called Journey Church in Troy Missouri. (Elevation: 650 ft)

Then in July we took our family vacation to Telluride Colorado. (Elevation8750 ft)

After Telluride, was a dream trip to my home state of Iowa for the RAGBRAI (Registers Annual Great Bike Ride Across Iowa).

Six days and 550 miles on the bike was and amazing experience for me and 10,000 other riders in the humidity of Iowa (Elevation is 580 ft).

(“Bike Tire Dip” in the Mississippi River – Davenport Iowa.)

After Ragbrai, I was able to attend Summit Leaders for four days in Yosemite National Park.  The leadership anti conference is lead by world traveler and adventure nut Joel Malm. This years speaker was author and pastor Mark Batterson of National Community Church in Washington D.C. .

What a great event. We climbed Half Dome (elevation 8842 feet ).

The Cables of Half Dome.


At the top of  Half Dome BY the “diving board” not on it.

To wrap up the summer of expeditions, my daughter and I along with 18 others from Journey Church hiked the 17 plus mile hike to the Colorado river through Havasupai Canyon. (elevation 3205 ft at Havasupai village).

It is safe to say that I have traveled some 8500 vertical feet this summer.

Yes it has been a summer of “UPS AND DOWNS” for sure.

What an amazing four months.

I want to adventure as much as possible before I cannot hike, bike or explore anymore.

“The world is a big place and I want to see all of it before it gets dark”. – John Muir

Steve Lummer –  a guy who had a great summer:)

Arizona, Life experiences, outdoors


I just wanted to post up a few pics of our latest adventure to Havasupai Canyon.

Last week, my friend Jesse Quiroz brought 18 energetic adventurers to Arizona to hike down into the Grand Canyon.

(Double click on the photo to enlarge it for a better view)

Havasupai Canyon is an amazing hike that  begins at Hualapai Hilltop, making a 10 mile descent through Hualapai and Havasu Canyon, past the native Supai Village and to our basecamp. From there we cast off to explore the turquoise waterfalls such as Havasu Falls, Mooney Falls and Beaver Falls. A few brave souls hiked all the way to the Colorado River.

The total milage to the Colorado river is stated to be 17 miles – but from my calculations it had to be at least 19 one way.

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Here are just a few pics to attempt to describe and show our three days in the canyon.

The trail down Havasupai is about a 2000′ drop. The first mile is reasonably steep, while the rest of the trail follows a very slight down grade. The hike is not overly difficult, and is a good one for first-time backpackers, but you do have to deal with a great deal of sun and heat. It will take about 4-6 hours to hike the ten miles each way, but don’t try to go all the way down and all the way back in one day, you won’t have too much fun.

There is a village about eight miles into the hike, but besides stopping to register your group, there is not much else to do there. It’s another two miles to the campgrounds.

Navajo Falls

Supai Creek runs through the entire length of the campgrounds – It is beautiful and has a ton of trees to help shade campers from the sun.

After setting up our camp Wednesday night we started the next full day exploring and hiking to the Colorado river. We left @ 7:30 AM for the “7 mile” hike. – I concluded it was more like a 9 mile hike from our campsite.

Here are a few pics of our journey down to the Colorado River.

Havasupai Falls pictured above is just above the campground.

Mooney falls is just below the campground.

Mooney Falls  is the tallest of all the falls at Supai  – It is beautiful.

The hike down the side of the cliff can be dangerous and caution is the word for the “chain climb” down to the floor.

The first few steps are through a tunnel that lead you to a series of chains that help you navigate your decent down to the base of the falls – The chains are wet and the climb is steep.

The climb down is worth the view – Wow!, what an amazing sight and feel to be at the bottom of Mooney falls with all that power of water spraying on your face.

(Mooney Falls behind me.)

After Mooney Falls, you make your way down stream to the next set of water falls called Beaver Falls.

This is where you need to be prepared for a attempting to keep your feet dry after you cross the water.

You might not think about it, but wet feet and shoes after putting in a few miles will result in blisters…. that will result in pain… that will result in a very uncomfortable hike.

Our process was to change shoes after every water crossing. – ALL 10 of them to the Colorado River and 10 of them on the way back.

Seven of us attempted to make it all the way to the Colorado river on this trip.

It is not a simple venture givin the water crossings and trying to make it back to the chains at Mooney before dark.

Beaver Falls are a series of water falls the cascade down the canyon – take some time to swim in this blueish “Gatorade” looking river.

Once you get past Beaver Falls, there is a rope climb that takes you up and over to a sign that tells you you are leaving Supai Nation and entering the Grand Canyon National Park.

After the sign, we headed to the Colorado river at a good pace.

We made it to the river at 2:06 pm. – here is a pic of the end of the Supai River as it flows into the Colorado.

Looking back up the canyon from the Colorado River.

Heading back to the campground was another set of water crossings – make sure you plan your hike and give yourself plenty of daylight – It would not be too much fun climbing the chains at dark.

We made it back to camp at 7:00 pm – 11 1/2 hours on the trail meant the next day we were a bit sore.

What an awesome trip. I really enjoyed the company of my daughter Natascha as well as some amazing friends from Journey Church.

Looking forward to going back to Hava Supai next Summer with Summit Leadership and Mark Batterson.

The Havsuw’ Baaja (Blue Water People), or more commonly the Havasupai.

When you see the Havasupai Indians, say "gah'muuh" - it is a a greeting meaning how are you?

Take a hike.